tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post2349413836763818560..comments2024-03-21T11:05:48.522-04:00Comments on The Passionate Foodie: Rant: Best Overall Wine Blog? It's A Man's WorldRichard Auffreyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-3719179301728169382014-08-09T00:43:37.895-04:002014-08-09T00:43:37.895-04:00HELLO FRIENDS AM LINDA COLLINS FROM CANADA MY BEST...HELLO FRIENDS AM LINDA COLLINS FROM CANADA MY BEST DECISSION I MADE ON HOW TO GET MY MARRIAGE BACK once when i went to Africa in February this year on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is {Prophet Harry} he is really powerful and could help pray to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and prayers for good job and financial blessings .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 3years. I really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this {Prophet Harry}, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided, skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 3 days when i returned to Canada, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn’t believe it cos the {Prophet Harry} only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is prophetharryprayerhome@yahoo.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04619337299665044086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-5242746316484376342013-06-14T13:37:32.928-04:002013-06-14T13:37:32.928-04:00Tom:
I suggest you reread my post. Yes, sexism i...Tom:<br /> I suggest you reread my post. Yes, sexism is part of the post, but it is far from the only point. The post clearly indicates I have made NO conclusions about the reason behind the apparent disparity. <br /><br />Any such examination should not be conducted exclusively to prove sexism or not. The goal is to determine the reason, whatever it might be, for the anomaly. <br /><br />I have not written a step by step plan for any such examination. And am not about to devote all that time to creating one at this point. If the organizers of the WBA want to investigate the matter, I am sure they can determine the proper course of action. <br /><br />I hope that my post simply raises awareness of a potential issue. It is up to others whether they want to investigate it or not.<br /><br />Though I would say there is probably another issue which has arisen, outside of the WBA, that of "perceived" sexism in the wine blogging community. Why do many women believe there is sexism there but many men do not? <br /><br />Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-25726114617517126452013-06-14T13:22:28.924-04:002013-06-14T13:22:28.924-04:00Richard:
I'm focusing on this issue of Sexism...Richard:<br /><br />I'm focusing on this issue of Sexism because it's the subject of your post and because you've noted that since some women have claimed this is the case, it needs to be investigated. <br /><br />Also, I think focusing on on the Best Overall category isn't the best approach to take. I would suggest that looking at all finalists and all winners across all categories is the way to go. <br /><br />So, once we find an anomaly, what next? What is the next specific step to take to determine if Sexism is at the heart of the wine blog awards.Tom Warknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-70232513051145569272013-06-14T11:10:01.765-04:002013-06-14T11:10:01.765-04:00Tom:
Why do you continue to concentrate on the s...Tom:<br /> Why do you continue to concentrate on the sexism angle when I have stated multiple times that it is only one possible answer out of numerous others?<br /><br />I also am not saying a statistical analysis "alone" is sufficient. I stated that was the "starting point" of the examination. Obviously more investigatory work would be required, but I think the statistical analysis is a good place to begin.<br /><br />And the idea is not to look at a specific percentage and say that is "sexism." The idea is to look more closely at nominating/voting patterns and seek out potential anomalies. <br /><br />The basic question is why has only one female wine blogger, on her own, has been nominated in the Best Overall Wine Blog category. There is a reason for such, and I think it is important to understand that reason.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-15250224432351954102013-06-14T10:55:58.869-04:002013-06-14T10:55:58.869-04:00Richard:
As far as I can tell you are suggesting ...Richard:<br /><br />As far as I can tell you are suggesting that a statistical analysis alone would lead you to believe that sexism is a likely culprit for their not being any women as finalists in the Wine Blog Awards.<br /><br />I'm not clear how you come to this conclusion. <br /><br />Also, I'm not clear exactly what is being suggested where "sexism" is concerned. Is the suggestion that there are those who are prejudiced against women to the point that given the opportunity to vote for a woman, they won't? How do you measure that? <br /><br />Finally, if you had statistics that showed what percent of women were nominated for awards (across all categories) over the past 7 years, at what percent of the nominees would you be prepared to say there is a good sign of sexism at play? Below 50%? Below 40%? Below 30%? Below 20%?Tom Warknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-88651304996683177022013-06-14T09:40:24.404-04:002013-06-14T09:40:24.404-04:00Tom:
The sexism angle seems to be dominating the...Tom:<br /> The sexism angle seems to be dominating the discussion, though I have said from the beginning that it is only one of several possibilities. I think an examination is warranted to determine why so few women have been finalists in the Best Overall Wine Blog. It would not be just a sexism examination but would be far more general in scope.<br /><br />It would start with a more deeper investigation of the statistics of nominations, finalist selection and voting for the 7 years of the Awards. Though that of course depends on whether such records were kept and still exist by the WBA organizers. <br /><br />If sexism existed in the contest of the WBA, how would it be acted on? It would depend in part in where it originated. For example, it could be an issue of the judges, which might require a better balance of male and female judges. <br /><br />In the end, maybe there is no sexism involved in the WBA. Maybe there is some other reason for the disparity. But, there is the perception from a number of women that sexism is involved. Maybe an examination of the situation could help to quash such perceptions.<br />Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-70826949616498339852013-06-13T21:33:29.348-04:002013-06-13T21:33:29.348-04:00Richard:
Simply because someone claims sexism, th...Richard:<br /><br />Simply because someone claims sexism, this is no reason at all to take the claim seriously. If a claim of sexism had been made and supported with something more than "Well, yeah, there is sexism", then there might be reason to take the claim seriously. But a simple claim? <br /><br />Also, being an attorney who is skilled in investigation and use of evidence, tell me, how would you go about conducting the investigation to determine if sexism exists—an investigation you claim needs to happen given your irregular statistical model.<br /><br />Finally, before we go any further, can you explain how "sexism" would be acted upon in the context of the Wine Blog Awards?Tom Warknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-64582252693020504522013-06-13T20:24:17.394-04:002013-06-13T20:24:17.394-04:00I humbly suggest you ship your data and simple fac...I humbly suggest you ship your data and simple facts off to somebody who will subject it to an independent and objective analysis. I obviously can't help you.<br /><br />Being right makes no difference to me, I gain nothing in this case. As a friend all I was trying to do was add meaningful character the the conversation.<br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-58643713655549515462013-06-13T19:35:12.162-04:002013-06-13T19:35:12.162-04:00Jason,
I think you care very much about being ri...Jason,<br /> I think you care very much about being right. <br /><br />And the way I am viewing the "simple fact" is how many others have also done so in similar situations. That is what I explained with my publishing example. And it is seen as legitimate in many fields. <br /><br />I honestly think your position is based on a confusion of my actual point. I think you are confusing the position that "a disparity is significant" with a position that "the disparity indicates sexism." Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-35143252752334514002013-06-13T19:21:37.123-04:002013-06-13T19:21:37.123-04:00Yes, because it would appear that nobody makes a v...Yes, because it would appear that nobody makes a valid point but you. Look at your own replies to me and others.<br /><br />The phrase "simple fact" is root of the problem. The numbers you compare to assert this as you do are not relatable the way you try to use them. The populations of wine bloggers and wine blog award nominees are hierarchical, one is a subset of the other, and an organically created subset. It is NOT a random sample of the parent population.<br /><br />If I used data the way you are I would lose my job. Just for a moment consider why I would make such a strong statement. I don't care about being right, but a mistake is a mistake and you take great pains to point out when others make them fully expecting them to listen. Maybe it is your turn.<br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-36992580944855628862013-06-13T19:05:07.292-04:002013-06-13T19:05:07.292-04:00So rather than actually address what I have said, ...So rather than actually address what I have said, you choose to simply claim that I am wrong and then walk away. <br /><br />I know of your own stubborness, and I also know this is an emotional topic for you, which you have previously admitted to. <br /><br />Let me compare this to a hypothetical. Let us posit that women wrote 38% of the science fiction novels. There is an Award for Best SF Novel. In the last 7 years, only 1 woman was ever a finalist for this Award. There would be a large upswell of people investigating potential sexism because of the disparity in numbers. It would be seen as statistically significant.<br /><br />How do I know that is true? Because I have seen similar things occur in the publishing field during the last 6 months or so. And I have also done research into sexism & bias in recent months, which also includes analyzing such numbers.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-80896362799222214932013-06-13T18:53:17.145-04:002013-06-13T18:53:17.145-04:00Your assertions about the data do not hold up the ...Your assertions about the data do not hold up the way you think they do. I know how your work and won't back off even one inch. Sadly that means you make it seem as those others are taking shots at you personally. That is not the case. You could just say, <br />"You know what Jason, you make a good point, we don't actually have apples to apples data here and as such there is no firm ground to suggest a statistically significant problem." But you aren't. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree. <br /><br />Just know that passion alone doesn't make someone right. I'm not taking a personal stance here, I am just trying to sift through data and make REAL information out of it. But I'm done with that now. <br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-10556913139668749582013-06-13T18:32:29.506-04:002013-06-13T18:32:29.506-04:00Jason:
I believe you may be confusing the issue ...Jason:<br /> I believe you may be confusing the issue here. You stated my conclusion was: "That conclusion is that the proportion of women selected as finalists in the Best Overall Blog category of the WBA seven years running is significantly out of step with the proportion they make up of the overall wine blogger community."<br /><br />That is a simple fact. It is a fact that one sole female wine blogger was a finalist during the last 7 years, constituting about 3% of the total finalists. Female wine bloggers constitute roughly 38% of all wine blogs. So there is a large disparity there. If female wine bloggers are equally as skilled as male wine bloggers, this is a major issue.<br /><br />What you appear to be arguing about, based on everything else you say, is the reason for that disparity, and not actually disputing the number itself. And your position is basically there is no real reason for the disparity except randomness. <br /><br />The disparity alone though is sufficient to raise a red flag of a potential problem. It is often the starting point when analyzing sexism in many other fields. I have been a witness to this during the last six months. It is not definitive of the matter, but sufficient to start a debate. This is not a single year we are talking about, but a span of 7 years. <br /><br />If female bloggers only received 28% of nominations, then that too could be potentially indicative of sexism or bias. Why didn't more women received nominations in that category? That is not a random issue.<br /><br />I don't see this as an issue of normal randomness. I could accept that for a year or two, but 7 years stretches credibility. Flipping a coin gives you a rough 50% chance of getting heads. What is the chance of flipping heads 7 times in a row? Much, much less.<br /><br />Plus, at this point, there is more than the disparity at issue. I put forth several names of women bloggers who I thought worthy of being a finalist but were not, and at least some men agreed with a couple of those names. Why were they apparently snubbed? In addition, several women have stepped forward and alleged sexism. We can't just ignore their claims. <br /><br />None of this may have come out with someone starting this discussion.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-30897441005772752492013-06-13T17:43:50.315-04:002013-06-13T17:43:50.315-04:00That conclusion is that the proportion of women se...That conclusion is that the proportion of women selected as finalists in the Best Overall Blog category of the WBA seven years running is significantly out of step with the proportion they make up of the overall wine blogger community. The data you present can't be used to draw that conclusion. The one piece of information that I presented that should set the stage for an acknowledgement of that is that this year women were only approx 28% of the nominees in that category.That is 10% below the population representation from the recent survey. Nominations are public so exactly what kind of participation rate you might see against the community at large will only be correlated through random luck. Until you know what the participation rate is for each of the seven years you are comparing numbers that have no correlation. I am trying to explain why I am resistant at face value to believe that there is an identifiable or meaningful cause (quality, sexism, other) for the factual result that women have only been a finalist in the category one time in seven years. There may not be a statistically relevant problem, which we can't know due to lack of data, but if it didn't exist you then would be pursuing the question based solely on the idea in your head that it should be different. I might think it should be different as well, but what if the data suggested that it was random? Don't you want to use information correctly to frame and argument based on data? You could have left the data out and asked the same question, but people like me would have wondered the same thing, where is the evidence in using only the WBA to kick off this conversation?<br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-64715066951120021082013-06-13T17:13:37.875-04:002013-06-13T17:13:37.875-04:00And I am an Attorney, and analyzing evidence &...And I am an Attorney, and analyzing evidence & data is a career skill for me. <br /><br />What exactly do you think is the "firm conclusion" I have made?Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-39674196059475304842013-06-13T17:08:40.197-04:002013-06-13T17:08:40.197-04:00Not arrogant. Confident. I have degrees in Math &a...Not arrogant. Confident. I have degrees in Math & Comp Sci. Data analysis is career skill. Thought I might be helping. Nothing in what I provided makes you think there is more to developing the firm conclusion you've drawn?<br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-21167335330792202782013-06-13T16:56:56.601-04:002013-06-13T16:56:56.601-04:00Jason:
Wow, arrogant much? I don't think you...Jason:<br /> Wow, arrogant much? I don't think you understand my post or comments. I think you emotion is clouding your "logic." <br /><br />You did state on FB yesterday about this discussion that: "In the end I may not be the best person to take part in the conversation..." Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-43726963854825964242013-06-13T16:52:13.016-04:002013-06-13T16:52:13.016-04:00I don't and my only response is "numbers ...I don't and my only response is "numbers don't work that way". Just because you think you see a correlation doesn't mean the conclusion you make is true. Your consideration of sexism is a valid topic but the numbers you have available don't support it on their own. You are making a classic analysis error. Clearly you don't realize it. I was trying to help, but I guess it was a waste of my time.<br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-71900443795256063392013-06-13T16:48:09.025-04:002013-06-13T16:48:09.025-04:00Jason:
The statistics I have posted are factual....Jason:<br /> The statistics I have posted are factual. Out of 31 nominations over 7 years, only 1 female wine blogger, on her own, has been a finalist in this category. My only conclusion based on that is that it doesn't seem right. There should have been more female finalists.<br /><br />Since the nomination pages for all 7 years don't seem to be archived on the WBC site, that makes it far more difficult to provide a greater analysis. <br /><br />Even based on the numbers you provide, on average there should have been more than 1 female finalist in 7 years. And I am seeking the reason why that might be true.<br /><br />I know you are defensive about allegations of sexism, but it is something that needs to be considered here, as well as other possible solutions. As I mentioned in another comment, maybe male blogs are just better quality, overall, than female blogs. Do you subscribe to that opinion?<br /><br /><br /><br />Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-25408873767710241562013-06-13T16:32:30.894-04:002013-06-13T16:32:30.894-04:00Richard,
Several people have suggested that you a...Richard,<br /><br />Several people have suggested that you are using numbers incorrectly, including me. I've done a quick analysis that should help you understand the merit in what we are saying.<br /><br />I scraped the data from the 2013 WBA nominations and assigned sex with author for just the Overall Wine Blog category. If the sex of the author was unclear or the author was not listed I skipped over it. That loses some resolution, but I don't have time to nail it all down. I ended up with 60 distinct nominees. 17 women and 43 men. That means women were 28% of the nominees. So the women were nominated less than the recent survey about wine bloggers suggests them to represent in the larger community. Hmmm, that is meaningful I think.<br /><br />Now what I didn't do was look at how many nominations by person to determine how the nominees were weighted, but I don't know if that goes into picking a finalist either. If it does that has to be factored in to make any rational argument about the data.<br /><br />If you were to expand this analysis to each of the 7 years you would be able to look determine the actual participation rates amongst the two sexes and how those rates of participation and selection as finalists correlate. <br /><br />Yes, this years finalists in Overall Wine Blog were 100% men, but at 72% of the overall nominees in a small pool (60 total) lets not make something from the data that isn't obvious.<br /><br />The analysis needed to take your conclusion further has not been done. Unless you are going to do it you need to consider your statements as more conjecture than not.<br /><br />JasonJason Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14877600888412262376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-13964901477911828532013-06-13T12:24:46.904-04:002013-06-13T12:24:46.904-04:00Tom:
Sorry, but you are incorrect. The 3% figur...Tom:<br /><br /> Sorry, but you are incorrect. The 3% figure is evidence of potential sexism. It is not definitive or sufficient proof, but it is a potential building block in making such a case. <br /><br />Such statistics have been the basis for sexism claims in many other fields. It is a starting point, though not an end point. In addition, so far, no one has provided a well supported explanation for the disparity. <br /><br />Sexism is a reality in our society, so it is not implausible to think that there could be sexism in the WBA awards. Thus, the questions is valid to ask and consider.<br /><br />Women have generally been quick to alleged sexism does exist. Men generally have felt the opposite, that there is no evidence of sexism. Neither has really offered additional evidence one way or the other. <br /><br />The question is not about the "capability" of men vs women bloggers. The question is about the actuality. Most men seem to feel the awards have been a meritocracy, that the choice of finalists has been proper. Though some have agreed on at least a couple women that were deserving to be finalists in this category but who never have been finalists. <br /><br />The underlying assumption seems to be that the top male wine blogs are more deserving, of higher quality, than the top female wine blogs. Maybe that is the case. If so, that is a worthy topic on its own.<br /><br />Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-9322107302435484342013-06-13T10:28:23.822-04:002013-06-13T10:28:23.822-04:00Richard:
You said:
"Do you feel that the 3%...Richard:<br /><br />You said:<br /><br />"Do you feel that the 3% figure actually represents the overall quality level of female wine blogs?"<br /><br />I don't know what that question even means because it's probably not phrased exactly the way you want it to be. What I do know is that it isn't proof in any way of sexism.<br /><br />What was the percent of Female bloggers in the various years of the Blog Awards? Have you looked at the various blogs that were nominated for "Best OverAll wine blog over the years before the finalists were chosen? Have women avoided nominating women more so than men? Are any of the winners undeserved? Does it really mean anything at all that women have not won best overall, yet have won in numerous other cateogories?<br /><br />What I believe, Richard, is that men are equally capable of publishing a good blog as men are. What I don't know is if women have published good blogs at the same rate as men. <br /><br />What I do KNOW, however, is that until someone can actually offer a hypothesis as to why a woman has not won best overall blog that makes sense and isn't just a simple, unsubstantiated claim of sexism, we simply have to assume that the judges rendered their best objective measure of the nominees and finalists.Tom Warknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-19046749100174690952013-06-13T10:16:00.365-04:002013-06-13T10:16:00.365-04:00Clive:
You ask good questions, among which is: &q...Clive:<br /><br />You ask good questions, among which is: "How could a woman possibly convince you that she experiences sexism?"<br /><br />She might begin with any explanation at all. Simply saying sexism is behind the wine blog awards lack of a female winner in the Best Overall category really doesn't do the trick. A woman will need to explain to me why and how it is sexism for us to even begin to take her seriously. A claim alone if of no value.<br /><br />AS for me being dismissive of her claim, that's absolutely what I'm being because there is nothing to back up her claim. It's just a claim that comes with the defense, "I say so and therefore it must be". Please, take me out back and thrash me around a bit when I start making serious and important claims based on that criteria. <br /><br />You wrote: "I don't think you'd know "genuine sexism" if it smacked you in the mouth..."<br /><br />Maybe Clive. But I sure can listen to someone explain to me why the results of the Wine Blog Awards are sexist. Or at least I could if someone would attempt it. <br /><br />And you are right, my dismissal of the claim of sexism in the awards without any explanation is defensive. The difference is I've explained why I take my position. I've not seen anyone explain the opposite.<br /><br />Tom Warknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-73139545150232274382013-06-13T09:19:24.542-04:002013-06-13T09:19:24.542-04:00Tom:
Counting numbers is not definitive proof of...Tom:<br /> Counting numbers is not definitive proof of sexism or bias, but it is a starting point. It is done in many different fields to assess the possibility of such matters.<br /><br />In this case, as to the Best Overall Wine Blog, there have been a total of 31 finalists during the past 7 years. Only one women, on her own, has been a finalist, which is only about 3%. If women constitute 38% of bloggers, this is a significant disparity which should be investigated.<br /><br />Do you feel that the 3% figure actually represents the overall quality level of female wine blogs?<br /><br />Do you believe that the top ten female wine blogs are equally as good as the top ten male wine blogs? If not, by what rough percentage are the male wine blogs better?Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-44645022136251608172013-06-12T23:16:23.091-04:002013-06-12T23:16:23.091-04:00Tom, do you believe racism exists and is a real ex...Tom, do you believe racism exists and is a real experience people have? What's the metric people use when they make claims they've experienced racism? What would be acceptable for you? How would you quantify their experience if you can't completely empathize with it? If you can't experience it yourself? <br /><br />How could a woman possibly convince you that she experiences sexism? What metric could she possibly use to convince you that it exists if you can't perceive the way that she does. How would she possibly ever be able to substantiate her claims to your satisfaction? What's been asked here, by men (of both men and women) is prove it, give me numbers, make your case. One woman has claimed you just don't get it (I'm saying that very thing)is that her retreating in a huff? Or is it you being dismissive of her experience because it's not yours and frankly you "don't see it that way." My point being you cannot. <br /><br />To use your term, I don't think you'd know "genuine sexism" if it smacked you in the mouth, because homeboy, you can't experience it. Is genuine sexism the male standard by which we agree to recognize sexism? <br /><br />I wouldn't claim that the Wine Blog Awards are glaringly any more or less sexist than other arenas of our society, but to completely dismiss that claim is defensive, it's not productive and given the realities of society, I'd characterize it as out of touch.funwithboozehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02679358884915769416noreply@blogger.com