tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post4452553781062000046..comments2024-03-28T13:58:37.846-04:00Comments on The Passionate Foodie: Rant: Alton Brown, I Call You Out!Richard Auffreyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-62875868394879100422010-08-16T18:18:05.953-04:002010-08-16T18:18:05.953-04:00Every now and then, one gets a nice suprise, no? ...Every now and then, one gets a nice suprise, no? That's what I wish I could convey to Mr. Brown himself. <br /> While I can't speak for him, I do think he has his reasons. But, he could have been, well, more restrained. (I believe I took him to task in my very first post here, for that). I know he had his own blog, and some pretty rotten things happened to him--were said about him. I guess it's sort of my mission to try to get him to change his mind.<br /> If you do ever get the opportunity to speak to him, I hope you have the same kind of experience that I did the two times we met. He really is a gracious and quite personable human being, without much affectation.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537128247830985502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-10497568584382895892010-08-16T18:00:47.093-04:002010-08-16T18:00:47.093-04:00Anne:
Thank you very much for your apology and ...Anne:<br /> Thank you very much for your apology and I am pleased that I was incorrect that you would don't do so. <br /><br />I have written over 2300 posts on this blog, and only a very small percentage would be considered provocative. Of those, most would be part of my Monday Rant series. And even some of those are rather innocuous, such as ranting about powdered sugar on my waffles.<br /><br />Being provocative is not per se wrong. And plenty of respected journalists have written provocative articles. Sometimes it seems the best way to make a point, to get something accomplished. Public figures especially need to understand such articles may get written about them. Part of the price of fame.<br /><br />I don't see a need to apologize for asking some hard questions. And I did not ask Alton for an apology despite his negative comments and insults. I prefer to look at the good that resulted from the exchange.<br /><br />Take careRichard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-42392759832240856682010-08-16T17:41:16.752-04:002010-08-16T17:41:16.752-04:00I was expressing an opinion about what you had wri...I was expressing an opinion about what you had written, but, yes, I can see how that would be insulting. <br />I am far from perfect, and a passionate person as well, so, for any insult you felt, I apologize. I admit I could have chosen my words more carefully. <br />Suprised? Don't be. I am more about making the blogosphere a better place, than always having to be right.<br /> Emotions are powerful things. And you are right, I don't know a lot about you, fell prey to a negative first impression. I'm human, after all.<br /> I hope that you will respond to this.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537128247830985502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-79965360778757304502010-08-16T12:50:43.710-04:002010-08-16T12:50:43.710-04:00Anne:
You are not commenting here out of any hig...Anne:<br /> You are not commenting here out of any high moral ground. You are posting here only to be provocative yourself. I have seen your insulting words directed at me on your own blog. Are I going to see an apology for the insults you have lodged against me? Very doubtful.<br /><br />Your own insults toward me certainly won't make the blogosphere function as a community. You are clearly uninformed about me, and know nothing of my background or other writings. You speak about matters you know nothing about.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-22734915476903626482010-08-16T11:27:13.942-04:002010-08-16T11:27:13.942-04:00Man, I had hoped this topic was in the ground. Th...Man, I had hoped this topic was in the ground. The man still deserves an apology from you about the way you approached the subject. <br />It's things like this that fuel his prejudice against bloggers, making it hard for earnest people who'd love to talk to him to have a chance.<br />In addition, your continued admission that you were deliberately provocative to get a response does nothing to endear you to potential new readers.<br />It would be nice if the blogosphere could function as a community. All too often, save some notable exceptions, it's 'every man/woman for themselves.'Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537128247830985502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-62861815708185110722010-08-15T21:44:56.996-04:002010-08-15T21:44:56.996-04:00Alvaro:
I did ask some tough questions but it is...Alvaro:<br /> I did ask some tough questions but it is certainly very questionable whether anything would have happened if I had written a gentle and polite original post. And in my comments to Alton, my tone did change.<br /><br />If I had not been originally provocative, there might never have been a response. And in the end, much good came of it.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-23063297745195686892010-08-15T21:28:30.870-04:002010-08-15T21:28:30.870-04:00I'm a neutral observer who happens to support ...I'm a neutral observer who happens to support the decision to ban bluefin tuna.<br /><br />However, I'm disturbed by the harsh and confrontational tone that this blogger is using when dealing with the issue.<br /><br />Suffice to say, AB's "double standard" is very likely unintentional. He's certainly not a malevolent, cynical bluefin-hating, money-grubbing supervillain.<br /><br />So why speak about him in such critical terms?<br /><br />While advocacy on this particular issue is admirable, I really think a tone-check is in order.<br /><br />Just so people come across as assertive and passionate, but reasonable.<br /><br />My two cents.G. L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17304836371426033884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-60576590988709039842010-07-26T22:15:42.864-04:002010-07-26T22:15:42.864-04:00How interesting-that link-"Alton Brown, You&#...How interesting-that link-"Alton Brown, You're One of My Favorite People, But.." is back, when I asked you once before to remove it. I find it interesting that if these links are indeed, generated automatically, this particular link was the only one that has appeared . Please remove it.<br />Thank you.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10630949648551655146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-8856707656905223102010-07-24T19:43:24.265-04:002010-07-24T19:43:24.265-04:00On the off chance that Alton might still be readin...On the off chance that Alton might still be reading comments, why would anyone want to post as you? Beats me, but some years ago there was a fake Alton Brown on MySpace (the profile got some things obviously wrong, like saying you didn't have kits) who had a number of people fooled. It might be gone now, but at the time when some people on the GEFP including myself emailed people about it, MySpace refused to take it down. That's just one of the pitfalls of the Internet, people who can claim to be anybody, even celeberies,Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13369282763476029321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-51133872337723562002010-07-24T10:34:25.570-04:002010-07-24T10:34:25.570-04:00Anonymous:
I am fully aware that the Japanese co...Anonymous:<br /> I am fully aware that the Japanese consume the vast majority of bluefin. And I have commented about that in the past. Though they are the largest part of the problem, many others contribute to that problem as well, including the US.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-80845087085327481282010-07-24T10:14:26.472-04:002010-07-24T10:14:26.472-04:00Richard, perhaps you should take your anger out on...Richard, perhaps you should take your anger out on the Japanese, since they get 80% of the Bluefin Tuna, IN THE WORLD. They are the problem, not the USA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-19089070015726252582010-07-22T15:03:50.751-04:002010-07-22T15:03:50.751-04:00You admitted in your post that you assumed it was ...You admitted in your post that you assumed it was blue fin tuna. I wasn't assuming that you didn't try to contact them.I just commented on what I would have done before I published a post on a blog calling out a famous person. It was a comment on a post. Comments are there to allow for folks to give their opinions on a post and that is what I did. You seem to be rather defensive about the whole thing, I'm sorry if you think I insulted you.Janienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-44242440854760046032010-07-22T10:58:10.589-04:002010-07-22T10:58:10.589-04:00I wasn't aware of that. Still, I'm glad i...I wasn't aware of that. Still, I'm glad it's gone.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-51076720639912348892010-07-22T10:42:11.798-04:002010-07-22T10:42:11.798-04:00Anne:
The "Links" are automatically ge...Anne:<br /> The "Links" are automatically generated by the blogger platform. I don't chose them myself, and don't even see them when I view my blog.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-1453366866560242832010-07-22T10:38:04.231-04:002010-07-22T10:38:04.231-04:00No, I am not Noel. I post on a library computer, ...No, I am not Noel. I post on a library computer, so it's entirely possible that someone is using my username. I abhor FNH.<br />And I am sorry that person who commented after me was so crude. If you notice, I didn't, and would never use such insulting language.<br /> As for the link, it was at the bottom of your comment page. It said, "Links to This Post" and the link was there.Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-74660820088528264632010-07-22T10:23:11.149-04:002010-07-22T10:23:11.149-04:00FYI: If you come here simply to post nasty insults...FYI: If you come here simply to post nasty insults, your comments will be deleted. Keep such comments on your own blog, where I have seen plenty of very negative words about plenty of different food celebrities. I have seen your negative comments about me, despite the fact none of you seem to know anything about me. For example, you all seem unaware that I also write for newspapers and magazines, and are not just a blogger.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-46316290371716409112010-07-22T10:18:48.179-04:002010-07-22T10:18:48.179-04:00Anne:
Where exactly did I link to that other sit...Anne:<br /> Where exactly did I link to that other site? I don't see any such link here.<br /><br />Are you also the Noel from FNH?Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-56731534170374053622010-07-22T10:08:31.492-04:002010-07-22T10:08:31.492-04:00Mr. Auffrey-
I would like to ask you how linking &...Mr. Auffrey-<br />I would like to ask you how linking "Alton Brown, you're one of my favorite people, but' to your page, serves any purporse. She only references your article briefly. I see no need to use that as a link, when in past days, there have been many blog posts that praise your article. <br />Would it not be preferable to use them?Annenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-91054391816144081372010-07-22T09:18:27.626-04:002010-07-22T09:18:27.626-04:00Anne:
Being provocative is certainly not limited...Anne:<br /> Being provocative is certainly not limited to bloggers. It has long been a part of newspapers, television, radio and other media. Yes, I asked hard questions but the issue is certainly an important one. And the end result was very positive.<br /><br />My assumption was very logical. The tuna was referred to as "otoro" which nearly always is bluefin. Chef Okuwa uses bluefin in his own restaurant so he is not adverse to using it. I am unaware of any prior public statements by ICA that bluefin was banned. Even Alton did not remember bluefin had been banned. <br /><br />I have seen some episodes of Good Eats, and own his Good Eats book. I am aware of his sustainable seafood efforts and made reference to such in my earlier post. And that is a significant reason the apparent use of bluefin on ICA raised my questions.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-80412689515889906662010-07-22T09:04:48.246-04:002010-07-22T09:04:48.246-04:00Janie:
It is nice to hear you claim you would h...Janie:<br /> It is nice to hear you claim you would have acted differently. But your own actions go against that statement. You have assumed I did not try to contact someone at ICA/FN. I never stated here that I had not attempted such an action. Based on your own words, you should have emailed me first to ascertain the truth, instead of making your assumption. Easy to give advice, but tougher to follow your own advice.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-88791440673259679072010-07-21T20:23:33.972-04:002010-07-21T20:23:33.972-04:00One more thing, I'm curious about. While it s...One more thing, I'm curious about. While it seems that you have been watching Iron Chef America a great deal, I do wonder if you've ever tuned into Mr. Brown's other program on the Food Network, "Good Eats". If you had, and had viewed an episode from last season, entititled "The Once and Future Fish", which was all about Sustainable Seafood,. and another episod called "Gills Gone Wild", all about Wild Salmon, I think you may have relized that you jumped the gun on this one<br />I suggest you give it a viewing.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537128247830985502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-83225930675164131762010-07-21T18:58:47.008-04:002010-07-21T18:58:47.008-04:00TY, Janie. ITA with what you said.
So, what you a...TY, Janie. ITA with what you said.<br />So, what you are saying, Richard, is that you DELIBERATELY chose to be provocative, to hopefully insure an answer from Alton. <br /> Perhaps that is why he may have so many problems with bloggers. As I stated earlier, he is as human as the next person, it is HIS perogative as to whether he choses to answer or not. Instead of just posing the question, you had to issue a challenge, like a 12 year old bully in a school yard.<br /> In my experience, Mr. Brown is a man of some pride, who while he does have strong beliefs and convictions, chooses to carry them out and express them quietly.<br /> I don't know if he would have answered you if you had asked differently, and btw, you could have ranted without name dropping.<br /> Added to this is the fact that it wasn't bluefin at all. For that, I think Mr. Brown deserves an apology....but I won't hold my breath.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537128247830985502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-48783387381325068742010-07-21T15:59:12.680-04:002010-07-21T15:59:12.680-04:00Personally, I would have tried to contact someone ...Personally, I would have tried to contact someone at ICA/FN to verify that is was blue fin tuna before publishing a post trying to call someone out like this. I would do the research before publishing a post instead of having to be corrected later by the person you have called out.janienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-10490844721347887032010-07-21T15:13:28.019-04:002010-07-21T15:13:28.019-04:00Some additional comments:
1. As I stated in my or...Some additional comments:<br /><br />1. As I stated in my orginal post: "Chef Okuwa apparently served bluefin, otoro." In its most common use, otoro refers to bluefin. Sure it can be used for other types of tuna, but that is a much rarer usage. It is certainly a valid assumption that it was bluefin.<br /><br />2. There does not appear to be a list online on those foods banned from Iron Chef America. I do not see it on the ICA website. So, how can people know what is and is not banned from the show? There should be such a list that the public can access.<br /><br />Alton stated bluefin has not been allowed in ICA for almost two years, but he apparently did not know that until he checked some records. I would expect him to have known something like that.<br /><br />3. Would Alton have responded to my questions if I had not been as provocative in my original post? That is questionable, especially given the fact many people have claimed that Alton does not read or comment on blogs, including some fan sites devoted to Alton. <br /><br />4. I do appreciate the fact that Alton did step forward and provide answers to my questions. It certainly cleared up the issue of bluefin on ICA, an issue that was previously murky.<br /><br />5. And finally, an early Happy Birthday to Alton (which is July 30).Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2405633513402883204.post-10696837597144750892010-07-21T14:59:51.068-04:002010-07-21T14:59:51.068-04:00Hi Anne:
First, Alton obviously does have that muc...Hi Anne:<br />First, Alton obviously does have that much power as he was able in a matter of hours to get ICA to ban bluein. <br /><br />Yes, my post titles was provocative, as was much of the rant. But that was part of the intent, as this is my Monday Rant series. It is much more of an editorial, not a straight news article.Richard Auffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03948647697847819742noreply@blogger.com